Comments on: NBA Elo Player Rater

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By: David

David — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 00:40:46 +0000

@Ken

I'm curious as to why you would vote MJ down against Magic. I can understand Kareem from an accomplishments/legacy standpoint (and even that requires a bit of imagination), but given the statistics MJ was clearly better than Magic.

By: Ken

Ken — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 00:58:20 +0000

I'm wondering if the odds are weighted somehow, odds of popping up I mean. Over the past week since I started doing it, I've had every player come up 50 times or more. Every player except the top 5 guys that is. Michael Jordan has appeared 4 times, he's the least, Magic, Kareem , Bird, Wilt about 10 more or less. And the really frustrating thing is when I've voted Jordan down, once with Wilt and once with Magic it didn't register. The other two appearances he's made I voted for him and it went through no problem. Anyone else have that problem?

By: infinitesadness

infinitesadness — Fri, 24 Jun 2011 18:15:49 +0000

what i learned from elo player rater;
there are really dedicated haters out there for kobe&lebron and every other player.
one minute kobe is in the top 10-rightfully so-mostly around 8-10 spots and the next minute he is hardly at the 80s.
same thing for lebron one minute he is in top 20-30s range next he is out of top 100.
what s the point of this?
it was clear from day one that this wasnt going to work,so why is the voting still goes on?
it was a good precaution closing the voting the players from their mainpage links but it still doesnt stop dedicated-and may i add obsessive-haters.

By: Dave

Dave — Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:27:14 +0000

There are so many flaws because of people who aren't real basketball fans or are only fans of one team or specific players. Example: how the heck are players like Manu Ginobili, Bruce Bowen, Carlos Boozer, Marcus Camby, Chris Paul, Deron Williams who are not only still playing but haven't reached 10,000 points in their careers yet(while being mostly offensive players at that) ranked higher at times or voted on by idiots than Alex English (25,000 career points) and others like him sometimes a player who is so obviously better than one of these pretenders is a couple hundred points behind the wannabes it's embarrassing that this happens as often as it does even if some of the players are really good and will eventually be one of the greats(Chris Paul). I think some new standards for players under 10,000 points should be put in place like 6,000 assists, 1,000 steals, 1,000 blocks, 6,000 rebounds, etc. to even out who gets in.

By: Dave

Dave — Sun, 19 Jun 2011 04:16:53 +0000

Ha some of these are laughable number one Shaq has retired now why is he still in the current players top 5, 2nd Dirk and Jason Kidd in the top 5 current players over D wade and Lebron is obviously based on only one series and not their careers people are letting their emotions get in the way too much instead of comparing the stats and individual accomplishments do the talking for them. Slater Martin is a great example he's in the Hall of Fame but only has 7,000+ career points against a bunch of guys in the 50s and 60s mostly white, shorter, less athletically gifted in speed, agility, quickness, height, strength, size, etc. He doesn't deserve to be in the Hall and shouldn't ever beat any NBA player from 1980 on who has better career stats than him. Just because He got a ring or 2 while not even the best player on his team back then shouldn't mean he deserves to beat anybody who doesn't have a ring so flawed HOF and rating system since comparing eras even with comparable stats is already flawed.

By: P.B.inLos Angeles

P.B.inLos Angeles — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:55:23 +0000

Hey Daveh, If we're to subscribe to - as pro Celtic/Bill Russell proponents opine - the theory that Bill Russell is the greatest center of all time based upon the number of championships he won, then Sam Cassell, with three championship rings to LeBron's zero, should certainly be rated above James, don't you think?

By: daveh

daveh — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:28:25 +0000

Not quite, Larry. The stupidity is still festering right there on the player pages, nothing has changed. In fact, I just peeked at LeBron James' page, apparently a lot of geniuses feel he's the 129th best player of all-time, just eeking out the 130th best guy, that all-time great, Sam Cassell. This site has devolved in a major way.